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The Look and Sound of Obsolescence

Quick, grab it!

A while ago, I promised to write a blog entry about my adventures with HD DVD. Sadly, these sorts of things have a tendency to fade into the abyss of obscurity and doubt. Better late than never though, right?

Ah, what a glorious time! When men were men, red and blue desperately vied for customer acceptance, and bonus features inevitably turned out to only be available in pitiful 480i. I'm referring, of course, to the high-def format war which ended earlier this year. Blu-ray and HD DVD were the standards in question, and each spent eight years and (probably) billions of dollars convincing studios, equipment manufacturers, and consumers that their standard was the better of the two.

Like the VHS / Betamax format war before it, the Blu-ray / HD DVD format war required consumers to make an expensive gamble if they wanted to upgrade to the next big thing. Like the previous war, Sony was almost singlehandedly pushing one of the formats. Like the previous war, consumers quickly fell into camps which zealously defended their format of choice. Like the previous war, each side made claims to significant advantages over the other.

But unlike the previous format war, those claims were all lies.*

While there were minor differences in realms such as disk capacity and maximum supported bitrate, the similarities far outweighed the differences. Both formats supported the same video and audio codecs, both formats had the same multi-stream capabilities, and the differences in capacity and bitrate range were arguably irrelevant in most cases.

But the startling absence of differences between the formats did nothing to reassure consumers. The media-encouraged parallels with the VHS / Betamax war had taken root in the population's psyche. So, when HD DVD bailed, Blu-ray won, and consumers did exactly what they had been programmed to do. They panicked.

The second-hand market suddenly flooded with second-hand HD DVD merchandise, and I was thrilled. After all, despite the leaning tower of marketing lies looming over the issue, the video quality of HD DVD was never inferior to Blu-ray. So even people as broke as myself now had access to gorgeous HD DVD movies for less than the cost of an average used DVD.

But there was still a concern. After all, manufacturing of HD DVD players has ground to a halt, and it's very unlikely that future decades will see a change in that regard. So there will come a time (in the not-so-distant future) when my shiny new HD DVD disks won't be readable, just because there won't be a player or drive to read them.

How did I address this problem? I simply bought a cheap XBox 360 HD DVD drive. (They're $50 brand new right now, and compatible with every major operating system.) Then I copy the movie off the disk, decrypt it, and store it in whatever format I choose: A perfect, future-proof solution! (Yes, I'm publicly admitting to ripping my legally-owned HD DVD movies for the purpose of watching them privately in my own home. It's shocking, I know.)

In fact, due to the inherent similarities between HD DVD and Blu-ray, I believe it would be a trivial matter to simply re-multiplex and author a Blu-ray disk directly from the HD DVD sources. Which would result in a feature film presentation identical to the original HD DVD, but compatible with the dominant player format.

I admit, the process of ripping/decrypting/demultiplexing/transcoding the HD DVD is far from trivial. But for a tech like myself, the journey is half the point, and the result is beautiful 1080p video in the comfort of my own home.

ttyl!

--Alex

* - I'm concerned only with a disk format's ability to reproduce the feature presentation. Since both formats were capable of decoding the same codecs at mostly the same bitrates, feature presentation quality would only come into play in extreme situations. (Such as trying to fit more than one LotR extended edition movie on a single disk.) Furthermore, bonus features, interactivity, and other ‘goodies’ are not factored in to this discussion at all.

Comments

Yep.

Go for it, Malex! :-D

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“... But as for me, I trust in [God.]” -Psalm 55:23

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Wait...

So, does this mean that Blu-ray will now, as the only format of the future, have the freedom to increase their prices for both the device AND the movies? And that we, the hapless consumers, will have our wallets raked over the figurative coals in order to partake of this technology?

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I get up, I walk, I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing. - Hillel

We should take our comfort from God's word, not from the circumstances of our lives.

My justification of prices.

This may be a little biased, yes Bluray is the tangable medium format for the near future but that doesn't mean DVD is going anywhere for a long while. DVD was brought on the consumer market in the mid 90's (1997 I think) DVD took over the market around 2002 or 2003, But VHS was still made until 2006. That was the official death of VHS. DVD didn't have 20 years to flood the media but bluray players as well as HD DVD players can and will play DVD. So you can keep your precious DVD's.

Most technology does fall in price the longer it is out and by the end of the year there are supposed to be several sub $200 players on the market. (you can already find some sales for this ie http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1374)

The Disks themselves are more expensive yes, but now a lot of these new releases (Rambo, Jumper, Hitman, etc...) are coming with a digital copy of the movie as well that you can download to your computer. So yes a new DVD costs $17.99 and a new bluray costs $29.99 but look at buying these titles as buying 2 copies of the movie. (apx $15.00 each)

Magic is more than something that you see. Magic is something you feel. It's like the feeling you get when you hear that certain song or see that one person...that's real magic.

Magic is more than something that you see. Magic is something you feel. It's like the feeling you get when you hear that certain song or see that one person...that's real magic.

But...

...what would I want with two copies of any movie?

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I get up, I walk, I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing. - Hillel

We should take our comfort from God's word, not from the circumstances of our lives.

I don't know you tell me

If I remember correctly your family owns several copies of the movie Serenity.

As for myself I like the digital download because I don't have to do all the stuff malex does to put a copy of the movie on my computer/

Magic is more than something that you see. Magic is something you feel. It's like the feeling you get when you hear that certain song or see that one person...that's real magic.

Magic is more than something that you see. Magic is something you feel. It's like the feeling you get when you hear that certain song or see that one person...that's real magic.

No

Our family doesn't own a single copy of Serenity. Malex owns several copies. And I still can't figure out why.

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"He speaks of Meow."

"Just feed the cat."

Everything looks perfect from far away.

Back in the day

Once upon a time, you had to buy the 45rpm vinyl of a song to get the version that you had heard and learned to love on the (am) radio. You also had to buy the album to get the "album version", which was generally longer, because songs could only be 3 to 4 minutes long to receive airplay. Even then, I seldom bought both versions. The radio version was fine for me.

So, I can't imagine buying more than one copy of a movie, unless the first format had become obsolete. There are movies I've owned on Beta, VHS,& DVD.

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I get up, I walk, I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing. - Hillel

We should take our comfort from God's word, not from the circumstances of our lives.

Clarification

I thought Shaman was just kidding, but now I feel I must intervene.

The two copies of the movie the Shaman was talking about having are different. The Bluray disk will only play in a Bluray player.

So the digital copy of the movie he’s talking about would be for if you didn’t have access to a Bluray player (like you want to share your movie with a friend while you’re visiting him and he has a computer you can copy the movie to, but no Bluray player), or if you wanted to compress a copy onto your iPod for watching it portably, or if Aisling wanted to use some clips from it in another YouTube video without having to go to the trouble of ripping it, etc., so on, so forth.

So think of it like having a VHS tape and a DVD of one movie, only pretend VHS isn’t obsolete. And pretend you can only press eject, grab your DVD copy, and walk out of the house with it in certain curcumstances. ... And maybe pretend you have a handheld, battery-operated VHS player. :-?

Okay, I give up trying to find a comparison. ;)

The question would be whether that extra, more portable, more flexible copy of your movie would be worth another fifteen dollars just so you can watch it in the car on a long trip or whatever.

So there it is. :D

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Serendipity becomes real when you trust in God. :)

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I think

I’m not sure, but I think it was slightly more along the lines of charitable donation than ecomonic strategy.

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Serendipity becomes real when you trust in God. :)

Gaussian blur fixes everything!

Actually...

The digital copy supplied on the disk is far less useful than that, as it's both encrypted and encumbered with DRM. So it cannot be copied from computer to computer, it cannot be burned to DVD, it cannot be compressed onto an iPod, and it most certainly cannot be snipped up into a YouTube clip.

So the most you could do with it would be to watch it on your conveniently-portable laptop. But wait, if you can copy it to your laptop, that means you already have a Blu-Ray drive on your laptop, and the quality would be much better if you just play the Blu-Ray disk directly.

The sad fact here is that the "extra" copy of the movie is nothing more than a pathetic marketing gimmick, and does nothing whatever to justify the inflated price.

--Alex Markley

“Suddenly, the world was a bit more orange than usual. And the bunny didn't like it.”

Alex Markley

“Arrogance is bliss! Or is that ignorance? Either way, I win!”

Whoa

X-[

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“... But as for me, I trust in [God.]” -Psalm 55:23

Gaussian blur fixes everything!

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